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  What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's pretend this might happen.

  im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

  if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

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  FayeDunaway

  If they drop 1914, any mention we make of '1914' we will be labeled as 'apostate.'

  
  

  LOL, that is hilarious!
  
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  If only............

  by tresdecu in

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  ....charles taze russell's mom and dad didn't have sex back on that night in june of 1851.... weird that a married couple getting horny could affect so many lives 164 years later.. just a random friday thought.

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  John Aquila

  Wozza, you will not guess the ending, but it will freak you out.
  
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  If only............

  by tresdecu in

  1. jw
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  ....charles taze russell's mom and dad didn't have sex back on that night in june of 1851.... weird that a married couple getting horny could affect so many lives 164 years later.. just a random friday thought.

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  John Aquila

  Have you seen the move Predestination with Ethan Hawke? It's worth the 99c at Redbox.

  
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  What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's pretend this might happen.

  im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

  if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

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  John Aquila

  Older ones have no where else to go. They see that the only "End" that is near, is their own. But it would not be wise for them to risk all their friends and any family they have still "in".
  

  Doc, I did after being 40 years in. I think we underestimate what is happening as far as exposing the WT as being a cult and the effect it is having on JWs worldwide. The amount of people waking up compared to say the 80s is mind-boggling.
  
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  What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's pretend this might happen.

  im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

  if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

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  wozza

  It is possible they drop 1914 anytime from now ,if I look back to the time I first studied their teachings in 1974-75 ,and then look forward from then, I could never imagine the religion and it's teachings now that we see.

  That's what I see wozza, these guys are so crazy and presumptuous that anything is possible. When I came in I saw quite a few die because they wouldn't accept blood. Then out of the blue, blood fractions are ok. Everyone would say; "We will never accept blood, if we do, we are NOT the true religion"

  But what happend? It changed overnight.
  
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  Just had a former elder friend tell me, “This Overlapping generation is crap.

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night i ran into a former elder friend, he is in his late 70s.

  he asked how i was doing and i asked how he was doing.

  then out of the blue he tells me; .

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  Vidiot 5 hours ago

  That suggests that he was actually with them in the first place, originally.

  It ain't much of a stretch to go from "they had it once but lost it" to "they probably never had it", though.

  
  

  Vidiot, that's a good one, I'm gonna try to use that when appropriate.
  
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  What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's pretend this might happen.

  im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

  if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

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  I understand many jw will still not wake up, but would the news of dropping 1914 impel an ex-jw to approach his jw relatives and point out that the basis for believing in the last days is over. Would it give you an incentive to go tell them, "It's over, you were following false prophets, it's time to reexamine your religion"

  Or would you just leave your relatives alone.
  

  I personally would give it a shot and try to help them see that it's over. The last days starting in 1914 was a scam.
  
  
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  What will 1914 (DROPPED) mean for you (EX-JW)

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  let's pretend this might happen.

  im not asking what it will mean for the jdubs or for the organization, but what will it mean for you---- if one day you wake up and the watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.. (you know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime).

  if you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;.

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  John Aquila

  Let's pretend this might happen.
  

  I’m not asking what it will mean for the JDUBs or for the organization, but what will it mean FOR YOU---- if one day you wake up and the Watchtower drops the 1914 doctrine.

  (You know at some point they have to, but probably not our lifetime)
  

  If you are disfellowshipped or disassociated and have been shunned by your parents, by your children, by you spouse or ex-husband/wife, for years or even less, will you call your relatives and ask/tell them;

  “Are you going to talk to me now?”

  “I guess Jesus didn’t start to rule in 1914!”

  “Are you going to keep following the Watchtower?”

  “Are you going to keep on preaching?”

  “I told you so”

  Would it make a big impact on your life? Would you be pissed of at your relatives for all the time lost? Would you want them back in your life after all the years of shunning?
  
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  Peter answers the questions of when are the last days and what Generation all in one chapter

  by Crazyguy in

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  in chapter 2 of acts ,this is the seen of pentecost and the speaking of tongues.

  people started freaking out thinking these people are drunk an peter gets up and says in verses 16-17 these people are not drunk this in the fulfilment of the prophecy written in joel.

  he goes on to describe all these things and those accomplishes by jesus and says these are the last days.

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  Morpheus 13 minutes ago

  Very true but the dubbies would say there was a past and a modern fulfillment

  
  

  You forgot the "Future Fulfillment" Morpheus, after the overlapping generation runs its course. We're talking maybe 2075.
  
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  How did Matthew Use the Word "Generation"?

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another "generation" thread....i know!

  when splane wanted a scripture that demonstrated the bible's use of the word he went all the way back to moses and used ex.

  1.6. he could have stayed in the same book and used matthew chapter 1,written by the same hand.

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  John Aquila

  Good one BB. I keeping this one for reference.